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  • Re: The US election

    From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Ward Dossche on Thu Nov 14 20:55:00 2024
    Hello Ward!

    13 Nov 24 12:32, Ward Dossche wrote to alexander koryagin:


    In which century are you living?

    The proper question might be in which /country/...

    Abortion is a pil these days.

    Germany has over 50% by vacuum aspiration and about 30% by pharmaceuticals.

    https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/9884/JHealthMonit_2022_02_Schwange rschaftsabbrueche.pdf


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerrit Kuehn on Fri Nov 15 14:21:04 2024
    Gerrit,

    Abortion is a pil these days.

    Germany has over 50% by vacuum aspiration and about 30% by
    pharmaceuticals.

    I don't know, but wouldn't it rather be a combination of both?

    I tried reading the text, and my german-language knowledge is +/- OK, but it's a tad too much to filter out that particular kind of information. You can always tell me page so-and-so and the line or header.

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Ward Dossche on Fri Nov 15 20:39:08 2024
    Hello Ward!

    15 Nov 24 14:21, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:


    I tried reading the text, and my german-language knowledge is +/- OK,
    but it's a tad too much to filter out that particular kind of information. You can always tell me page so-and-so and the line or header.

    From the abstract:
    ---
    Mehr als die Hälfte der Schwangerschaftsabbrüche (52,1 %) wurden mittels Vakuumaspiration durchgeführt, 11,4% durch eine Kürettage, 32,3% medikamentös mit dem Wirkstoff Mifepriston (Handelsname Mifegyne).
    ---

    However, you are correct about the combination: the text mentions that the statistics gather only one method while some (like vacuum aspiration and pharmaceuticals) may be applied in combination (page 47, right column, starting in line 5). Thus the numbers might be less reliable for these. OTOH, this means that in that case your statement "abortion is a pil" needs to be extended (at least for Germany).


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerrit Kuehn on Sat Nov 16 06:07:48 2024
    Gerrit,

    However, you are correct about the combination: the text mentions that
    the statistics gather only one method while some (like vacuum aspiration and pharmaceuticals) may be applied in combination (page 47, right
    column, starting in line 5). Thus the numbers might be less reliable for these. OTOH, this means that in that case your statement "abortion is a pil" needs to be extended (at least for Germany).

    Thank you for the clarification. With 2 family members in the medical profession, one in obstetrics, I did ask around and did also my research.

    Another contributing factor is how far the pregnancy has evolved, how many weeks ... so I think we can conclude there are many factors influencing the procedure.

    I stick to my point (and I'd be surprised you'd have a differing position), that:

    * Abortion is health-care
    * The decision is the woman's
    * Men, stay out of the decision making process
    * The law, you have no business in a women's womb

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  • From Gerrit Kuehn@2:240/12 to Ward Dossche on Sun Nov 17 11:32:02 2024
    Hello Ward!

    16 Nov 24 06:07, Ward Dossche wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

    I stick to my point (and I'd be surprised you'd have a differing position), that:

    * Abortion is health-care

    Sure. Still, I'd not call it a first-choice solution for birth control and family planning. It takes two to tango, and imho men often show an embarrassing low level of responsibility, especially on the contraception part of the story.

    * The decision is the woman's

    Yes.

    * Men, stay out of the decision making process
    * The law, you have no business in a women's womb

    I guess this would need further clarification.


    Regards,
    Gerrit

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